tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-736448434152217111.post7702473487105919429..comments2023-10-19T11:27:25.565-04:00Comments on Nutwood Junction: Trying to understand the illogicalBethhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05149068921334726430noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-736448434152217111.post-15787064448328498262009-09-06T07:23:03.020-04:002009-09-06T07:23:03.020-04:00Great post. It is not that I want to set myself a...Great post. It is not that I want to set myself apart, but I am as critical of Obama as I was of Bush. Yet I just so happen to agree more with Obama on so many levels. Maybe I do suffer from cognitive dissonance. But trust me I tend to read more than repugs any way.lelocolonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13863848230674917354noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-736448434152217111.post-18811933373150719772009-09-04T13:47:04.277-04:002009-09-04T13:47:04.277-04:00Don't you think we invaded Iraq because of bad...Don't you think we invaded Iraq because of bad information passed on to our leaders? In the beginning almost everyone agreed with the decision (based on what they knew at the time) but when it was proven wrong...OMG, Bush is an idiot who caused the whole mess. Give me a break please.<br />JoyceJoycehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04868920753749973881noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-736448434152217111.post-14264656506380553102009-09-03T11:36:51.320-04:002009-09-03T11:36:51.320-04:009/11 was caused by a Beer Summit between Obama, Sa...9/11 was caused by a Beer Summit between Obama, Saddam and Bin Laden. Glenn Beck told me so. Wh do you hate Real America so much, Beth?Jenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00262085545705656892noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-736448434152217111.post-7480168984072860172009-09-02T23:15:13.939-04:002009-09-02T23:15:13.939-04:00Well done! I've tried to figure this out, too...Well done! I've tried to figure this out, too. Your explanation makes sense. Sherry also has a point! <br /><br />I tried to give W a chance and hoped he'd do better than he did. We know how that turned out.Joyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15718724697267800263noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-736448434152217111.post-85658590971505619322009-09-02T22:39:17.503-04:002009-09-02T22:39:17.503-04:00I am ashamed. Your post is well written, reasonabl...I am ashamed. Your post is well written, reasonable, and logically based on the psychology of human nature and the only thing that I have to say is that I agree with Lisa, there are a whole lot of stupid people out there. However, I think that cognitive dissonance is a much more rational explanation. But it makes me feel better to just call them stupid.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04614116686638969278noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-736448434152217111.post-74171411272038988032009-09-02T15:41:54.431-04:002009-09-02T15:41:54.431-04:00I was looking at WorldNetDaily this afternoon just...I was looking at WorldNetDaily this afternoon just to see what it was all about, and I was trying to read it with an open mind. I found that nearly impossible. What trash! But then I tried to put myself in the mindset of someone who believes all that garbage, and wondered how they could possibly change their ideas by reading something like The Huffington Post. I guess it works both ways. Perhaps I'm as closed-minded as they are. Oh well, at least I don't try to dispute proven facts.Laurelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03664721949113509873noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-736448434152217111.post-59868047065810941282009-09-02T11:27:08.276-04:002009-09-02T11:27:08.276-04:00for some i think it has nothing to do with those b...for some i think it has nothing to do with those big words...but<br /><br />"gee, my brain is pickled from all the booze and i am so damn narrow minded and fucking stupid that i am going to believe what I want to believe and to hell with the TRUTH"<br /><br />(guess who i am talking about)<br /><br />or<br /><br />"i hate Obama because...well, BECAUSE.<br /><br />clueless, stupid, lazy, mean spirited humans who have no clue how to THINK FOR THEMSELVES or have something to actually BELIEVE in live merrily each day with their beliefs that show they are full of it.<br /><br />nothing this President will ever do will be good enough for them. At least i did give Dubya a chance. Then he sent thousands into war.lisa https://www.blogger.com/profile/07625835751678075313noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-736448434152217111.post-37964659265934493102009-09-01T21:34:54.495-04:002009-09-01T21:34:54.495-04:00I need an example of someone of reasonable intelli...I need an example of someone of reasonable intelligence trying to rationalize true cognitive dissonance. The only ones I can come up with are people who try to find new 'facts' when the real facts blow their beliefs out of the water.<br /><br />As Moynihan (sort of) said: "You're entitled to your own opinion; but not to your own facts."jack-of-all-thumbshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02890408896745938386noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-736448434152217111.post-62350552348509076482009-09-01T19:42:16.352-04:002009-09-01T19:42:16.352-04:00i'm sure that cognitive dissonance applies to ...i'm sure that cognitive dissonance applies to my situation now as well. i told mr. mischief earlier that it seems that the powers-that-be are operating on the premise that thousands of years of collective catholic guilt will bully people into submission.<br /><br />i think they forgetten once again that i am not catholic (last time they wanted me to sponsor the first communicants and i was like oh wait, lutherans dont do that....)<br /><br />think of how fervently an 8 year old defends their personal belief in santa....that's what we've got here but now it's adults who refuse to believe in the light of all possible evidence showing their belief is contrary to reality.<br /><br />xxalainaxxmrs.missalaineushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08542984504965262088noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-736448434152217111.post-39964098896918293582009-09-01T19:39:50.171-04:002009-09-01T19:39:50.171-04:00That's fascinating, Beth. I think too many peo...That's fascinating, Beth. I think too many people are comfortable in believing conflicting evidence just because it is presented to them so well and they are too lazy to challenge it. I think this is why the world is going like that. It could be better, but why try to make it better? We all live with false beliefs somehow, just at different stages in our life and/or different levels...It's too comfortable like that. All the best. Ciao. A.lunarossahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15231055955991137579noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-736448434152217111.post-60407685251092145722009-09-01T18:37:34.344-04:002009-09-01T18:37:34.344-04:00The search for truth and understanding amongst all...The search for truth and understanding amongst all the diatribes is almost a full time job, glad you are on the case :o)Ken Richeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09425810816600512504noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-736448434152217111.post-13585915085502989292009-09-01T18:34:38.677-04:002009-09-01T18:34:38.677-04:00It's not just politics either, I've seen p...It's not just politics either, I've seen people just as adamant about religion. I think for these people it holds a semblance of solidity for them. Just as the truth and the facts might hold true for us. <br /><br />It's easier to believe falsely than have to admit your wrong or re-valuate what you might of previously thought. Kind of reminds me of OCPD. A personality disorder that won't allow you to admit your wrong, an obsessive need to be right. It means they've lost contro. Those suffering from OCPD - control must be kept at all cost. These people lose stability without their war cry. <br /><br />(Hugs)IndigoSage Ravenwoodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17143502548162174269noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-736448434152217111.post-28909134917708563802009-09-01T18:22:58.385-04:002009-09-01T18:22:58.385-04:00Funny, because I was going to do a entry with a me...Funny, because I was going to do a entry with a mention of 'cognitive dissonance' in it.<br /><br />That so many people succmb to the 'noise' and won't do the work to know and inform themselves is what keeps me on an edge. You want to shake yourself as if you are dreaming. How can people believe some of the things they do, despite the evidence to the contrary, is mind boggling.<br /><br />I used to think that I had my finger on some of the reasons why, but I have given up. There is so much nonsense that takes up RAM in the collective CPU, that I wonder if anything is going to be done that benefits society.<br /><br />There is a bumper sticker for ecology that says, 'think globally, act locally'. The inference being that what ever you do at home has a greater impact than you realize. Do what you can do in your surroundings to encourage recycling.<br /><br />You could apply that to independent thinking as well. I don't think that enough people think for themselves and would rather let other think for them. Worse, they do think, but let the opinions of people who are so great flawed themselves ... <br /><br />Beth, you are teetering on the edge of the rabbit hole ... I get dizzy thinking about all of the ramifications of the 'balkanization' of our social and political landscapes.Big Mark 243https://www.blogger.com/profile/10974573439218884164noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-736448434152217111.post-6275695551853863622009-09-01T18:18:52.742-04:002009-09-01T18:18:52.742-04:00Your posts blow me away. I love your quest for kno...Your posts blow me away. I love your quest for knowledge and your clear way of writing about complex issues. You, my friend, are amazing. <br /><br />And, yeah, I've got good friends who completely fall into this category. They'll insist until the day they die that Iraq and Saddam Hussein had much to do w/9-11. After all, they were harboring Bin Laden, you know. And just because we never found any WMD's doesn't mean they don't exist! Good God, it's like arguing with a two-year old or with George W. Bush. And isn't a major change in the health care system one of the main reasons we voted for Obama? Um, yeah, I think it was. Okay, blood pressure going back down...Debra Lynn Sheltonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08238268767406623274noreply@blogger.com